WarriorBabe Interview - Lisa

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WarriorBabe Interview - Lisa

- Hey, everybody. Welcome to our Warrior Babe Interview, with our veteran Warrior Babe, Lisa. Lisa has been a Warrior Babe for about nine months now. Right?

- Mmh.

- Cool. At the initial start, you just dove right into the VIP program. You came in, you were eating less carbohydrates. I bumped your carbs up to what's like 210, in that first week, you dropped weight. We were both like, "Oh my God." But even though you've only lost about 10 pounds in total, you dropped down to around the 15, 14 marker. But even though it's only been that 10 pound in your journey, your journey has been more of a stay the same weight, and watch your composition start to change.

- Right.

- So excited to kinda touch base on that here. And then on top of that, plus it's been an amazing, thing to watch your transformation as a coach with your body, but your mindset, since day one of working with you has completely shifted. You have, you're a very strong minded individual, but there is, you've gotten the course of understanding how this is a journey and you have brought in so much to the table recently in our Q&A's and our huddles, about the whole aspect of what the journey should entail on the mindset side of things. So it's been amazing to watch your progress, both mind and body. And so everybody, Lisa is here today to share some pointers for you Babes, so that you can adopt some of her strategies into your own journey moving forward. So welcome, Lisa. I'm really super excited to have you here.

- Thanks.

- Alright Babe, so let's kick it off. Let's open it up and you tell us your story, and how you got to where you are now.

- Okay. Going back always, just really throughout my life, I've just been on so many different, my own journeys of, one fad diet to the next. And the next year something new comes out and I'm like, "Oh, well, that's why that wasn't working, "'cause I was eating this." And then I was like, "Oh, well I'm not eating that." It was always this eat, this, don't eat that, do this, don't do that. And intermittent fasting and keto, and all these are all the magic things. And I'm like, "Well, if that's the magic thing, "why do people keep going off of it? "Why do they keep restarting it?" If this is the magic thing. And I was like, "Why can't I ever stick with anything?" And it was like, because this carbs, that's what would sidetrack me, yeah. And so I stalked you for a year, and I just watched what you would say and I was like, so many times just bells would go off. I'm like, "Oh my gosh, yes. "That's exactly how I'm thinking." Like, "How does she know how I'm thinking?" And so after I kinda, just I trusted you before I knew you.

- Yeah.

- And I reached out to you several times and you responded back directly to me. So I was like, "Okay, she's real, and I can do this." And so when I reached out to you, when I was thinking, I was eating, around 90 carbs a day if that. And I thought that was actually a lot. I was like, "Yeah, I thought that was a lot." And so then you gave me that first week of it. And it was like, I think the very first week, I think I was at like 185, 190 carbs, and I was like, "Oh my gosh." And we dropped six pounds that week. And you were like, So then you bumped me up to over 200 that next week, and I was like, "Oh my gosh." Yeah, the first couple, it took me a few weeks, to start kind of feeling things. But after two, three, four weeks, I was like, my clarity started coming back, my mind wasn't just a total fog all the freaking time. And I had energy, I had strength. My workout started being productive again. I could actually lift heavier weight. Just everything in general, just came together. And so that's what got me being a believer in the process. And then from there, the journey is just, it'll go on, I think throughout the interview, we'll touch on it. But that's kinda got me to where I was like, "Okay, I'm a believer." And you were right there with me, you were like, "Don't freak out, this is good, it's a good thing." And Oh, and I was so hungry. You instantly gave me all this more food, and after that, I remember the first week I said, "Nikkiey, I'm not gonna be able to eat all this food, "this is so much food." And then after that, after that first week I was like, "I need more food." I think every week since then, I've been like, "I want more food."

- Yes.

- You're pretty accommodating.

- So how long have you, would you say that your journey has been, with the whole fitness, the whole trying the different things that you've touched base on the beginning to what got you to right here? How long has that been?

- I probably, over 30 years.

- Wow.

- Now, 30, 40 years of trying. I went from everything from, 'cause when I was a teenager, I was like, I was pudgy, I was pudgy. I was very fluffy. And so my mom put me on, the very first diet I remember, was the grapefruit diet. And yeah, it was terrible.

- Oh my God.

- And then it was the cabbage diet. And then it was the Scarsdale diet. And then it was just like one night. And then it was like the eat one of every, of one kind of thing a day diet. I mean, just from one thing to the other, literally my whole life. And then of course, you would lose, I'd lose weight, but then I would get to that point and I would just, I mean, how much cabbage can you eat? I still, I don't really eat cabbage to this day because it was that diet. And so everything would just, it would always just end up, I abandoned it because it wasn't realistic, and there's no way you can stick to that. And every single time I was just, I would get thinner, but I didn't look necessarily better. And I'd always go off of it and then I would just gorge, eat whatever. Gain my weight back plus some, and then the new, the next new diet would come along, and I've done that for as long as I can remember.

- Yeah, what was that you wanna share? I think we were just about to get great into it. The way that we're conversating already, I can tell that, I want you to be able to share, what you just recently shared on one of the Q&A's, 'cause this is just what we were talking about. We were talking about all these different diets and the things that you've done to your body, over the course of these years. And then you come to this point recently, you just shared this epiphany just happened, a couple of weeks ago. Share that and what was that shift?

- Yeah so, obviously, we had more time on my hands lately and I've had a lot more time to think about things. And I started asking myself a lot of questions about, because I've seen improvement in my body, even though I'm doing everything that I've always been told, I couldn't do. I couldn't eat more, definitely couldn't eat more carbs, doing less cardio, all these things that I've always been told you have to do. And so trusting this process and I was like, "Why do I have these goal ranges?" I have this range of goals in my head, that's acceptable to me. That I can diet and get to this point. Why is it once I get to that point, I'm just like, "Okay, I've won. "I'm there." And then I just start eating normal again, and then I have this other range over here, that that's my maximum acceptable range. Once I get there, that's my kind of like, I've reached unhappiness now. Now it's time to start going back this way. And it was just kinda like this yo-yo effect, that I would just keep going back and forth, back and forth, for all these years. Well, I mean, heck that's done a lot of damage to my body. My body was short and it doesn't trust, it didn't trust me. So when I started with you, I think I've had a lot of resistance in my body, for months because my body, it didn't believe me. It was waiting for that shoe to drop, "Oh, she's gonna go back to what she was doing." And I think that when I didn't, probably around the six month mark, is when I kind of started asking myself these questions and just here recently, I've really gotten serious about questioning myself. And just wanting to know why I do these things. And I'm still not, I'm not 100% to that point yet of, all my whys. But I am starting to recognize them, which is really big for me and talk about them, which anybody that knows me knows that was really big.

- Yes.

- Share any weaknesses.

- Yes, yes, 100%. I know you so well. But that's one thing that so many women, it was on like a deeper level, don't realize that they do this back and forth and that's something that you've come to the realization of, why do you do this back and forth?

- Right, right. Yeah, and I do it just because, I would do it because I always had an acceptable, weight in my head. I always had this goal like, "I wanna get to whatever, 135 "that's where I wanna get to." And by all means necessary, I would get there. It was like a challenge. My challenge weight is 135 go. And I would do whatever I had to. I'd cardio myself to death, doing whatever, eating 1000 calories a day. Yeah, I know, right? And then I would get there and I would be miserable. I was hungry as shit. And, I just, I all around didn't feel good. I didn't have the energy to go do things, I had terrible brain fog, just all the time. And I just thought there was something wrong with me. And not understanding that not only was it my nutrition, but my mental set had become so skewed, that I actually thought that this was right, this is how it should be and this is how it is. And it's not.

- Yes. So let's touch base on that because you've been pretty much around this same weight. And this is something that always screws, with so many women's heads. Like, "I have to be this particular weight." Like you're saying. "I need to get to 135, this challenge. "I need to hit this specific weight. "I needed to lose 10, 15 pounds." You've been sitting at the same weight for like, fluctuating for what? Three months now?

- Mmh, yep.

- But we're seeing the composition changes. Your muscles are getting fuller and bigger, your leg are getting fuller and bigger. So how, share with us this, how do you handle? See not that, the weight aspect not really changing, but then being able to look at the pictures and be like. How have you been able to handle that? How do you handle, it's not a weight thing, it's, your journey has been a lot of just, "Hey, your composition is changing."

- Right. And so before I even say that, I'll say that with you, every single week, I'm accountable to you on Saturday mornings and I have check ins with you. So that means my measurements, that means my pictures, that means my weight, my body fat. And so that's the first time ever that I've had to be accountable with all of that. It was usually just me looking in the mirror and getting on the scale. And so that number, that was everything, that number was everything on the scale. And so, and in the beginning with you it was. Because that's just how my mind had been wired. And I would really freak out if my weight didn't drop down or if it went up half a pound, but yet I had been really good with my macros, my exercise. But then I just, I had to sit back and say, "I have to trust this process, "I'm with Nikkiey for a reason." So I just started, I said, "I'm not gonna concentrate on the scale. "I'm really gonna focus on what do I look like?" And I know that you know I do this, I take either my very first picture or I'll take one month previous. And I keep them, I put them side by side every week. And the changes that I see in my body I'm like, "Well, that's weird. "I'm the same weight, but why do I look so much different? "Why is my waist changing and why are my legs changing? "And my arm." Everything is changing, my composition is changing. And taking that leap of faith to do that, that was the first time ever that I had done that. And that was a breakthrough point for me, to break through to say that I use that number from Nikkiey. I gave that number to Nikkiey and I let it, I gave it to you and I let it go. If it goes up, and I've learned too sometimes, I'm on my period. So I may go up two or three pounds or things just may not be consistent with my body that week. I may not be eliminating properly. I mean, there's a ton of things. I could have had Chinese food and had too much sodium. That scale is just not a rock solid number, it fluctuates.

- Yeah.

- And so just understanding that that is not my go-to, how do I look? Looking at those numbers, looking at my measurements, why am I, if I put on a couple pounds where? 'Cause my measurements didn't change one single bit and I'm looking better. So I had to start trusting that process. And that was a hard process for me to trust. But once I did, once I went across that threshold, then it just kinda all released and it all just clicked and it made sense to me. And then that's when I kinda really started opening up, asking myself questions. And just exploring a little deeper.

- Yeah, that is so freaking powerful. It's detaching yourself from that number and realizing, how you can do that is by realizing the other variables that are coming into play. And by looking at yourself, looking at your side by side photos, and seeing holy sugar muffins, that your body composition is drastically changing. And then part is barely moving but there's changes, the pictures that, and I have to somehow, put it into this interview. But the pictures that you just recently shared with me, you can drastically see your quads are way bigger, your arms are way bigger, the composition is changing. So, but your number is staying the same. So like you're saying, breaking through that threshold, just give me the number for Nikkiey and that's it, the Babes, it's a number for your check-ins and that's it. The value lies in your photos, how you're feeling and those measurement.

- And the one thing we didn't kinda put into that was that, I may be gaining a little bit of weight now, but we didn't touch on the fact that I think you brought me up five or 600 calories a day. And a couple of my cardio days. So my food went up, my exertion went down, and I'm still kinda really holding there. I mean, I haven't had any major jumps a couple ounces, but nothing major.

- Yeah, that's another thing that we could totally touch base on is that, if your body was sitting, at a caloric intake for a very long enough time for it to get adapted. And in order to shock that body, we brought you up those 600 calories, lowered your expenditure but you can see that your body wanted that food because you're not shifting. If anything, you're filling out even more.

- Right.

- So I guess---

- I got hungry that week, when you increased me, I wasn't hungry before. And then all of a sudden I was like, "Oh my gosh, Nikkiey, I'm hungry, I want more food."

- Yeah, it's the moral, they were sharing with the women that they can understand it is that, food is not the enemy, the scale is not your go-to number. Your body composition's going to change if you are, if your goal is to shape, change your body composition, to get tone, to build muscle, that number is not reliable. And you need the food, you need the food order to get there.

- Right. And I'm learning that. I mean, every day I still, I'm still learning. I mean, I'm so far away from knowing, everything I need to know but I'm so far removed from where I was.

- Yeah, so let's talk about that. How do you deal with the psychological side of eating more food in order to get to the kind of goals that you got in mind?

- Now, I'm really positive about it, I embrace it now, I'm like, yes.

- How about before? Yeah, you're like, "Give me more food before I get hungry."

- Give me one food.

- How about that initial, when you first started the VIP and you saw that carb number come through, what was your thought process?

- I was like, "Oh my gosh, can't even, like no. "I don't eat that many carbs in three days, "is she kidding me?" But then when I was planning out my meal, I was like, "I can have a bagel." And I started getting excited.

- To get permission that you needed to be able to eat the foods that you enjoy.

- Right, and I was like, "Are you sure? "Can I have, I can have a bagel?" And you're like, "Yeah." Okay, all right, I'm trusting you."

- Yeah, yeah.

- So the psychological part was really pretty easy for me. And I think it's because it came at a good time for me. I was ready for that increase, I was ready to shake things up, I was ready---

- You're ready for the change.

- Yeah.

- You're ready for that change 'cause you were doing so much of the same thing with new diet, new diet, new diet, low calories, low calories, low calories. And then you're like, "Okay, she wants me to eat? "Okay."

- Right. And that's---

- You get to that point, sorry I don't mean to cut you off, but you kinda get to that point where you're like, "What else do I have to lose, man. "I've been trying to have this "whole way of things for so long."

- Right, and that's usually where people, that's where I would fall off when I'd hit that point, where I couldn't make it change anymore. And the frustration would set in and I'd be like, "Forget it, tired of trying. "Why am I trying?" And so by having you, we could talk about it, 'cause that's huge or I could talk to you every week and say, "What's going on? "Why is this happening? "Let's try this, let's try that." It just helped so much because, those are things I don't know.

- Yup, 100%. All right, so let's touch base on, something that a lot of the women struggle when they first start is, when they first start getting into something with macros, their struggle is hitting their macros or planning ahead. So, and I commonly see this, especially in the Revolution group. It's like, "I can't hit my macros today." Or "I'm off of my protein or carbs are here." Right? So what are some pointers that you could provide them, that have really worked for you?

- The biggest pointer, number one pointer, plan ahead. Plan your meals the day before. There are no excuses, you cannot wing it, you will not meet protein goals if you're gonna wing it. You'll go over in your carbs and your fats and you will not meet your protein goals or at the end of the day, you will have some funky combination of crap that you're trying to put together, because you have not planned properly or you're having to eat way too many calories. When I eat, I plan my day, I don't care what's going on the night before. It takes me less than five minutes to do my entire day. It's just a matter of getting used to it. And when you plan it that way, all six of my meals are spread out, they are proportioned properly. I've got my protein spread out, I've got my pre and post workout, carbs where I need them to be. You can not succeed longterm for your lifetime with this if you do not plan ahead, period. If you don't plan your day ahead of time, it's not gonna work.

- Amen, mic drop. 100%, 100%, don't just say they probably, they hear me reiterate that over and over so it's really nice having you come in and be like, "Plan ahead." Now, so talking about the protein, which you brought up a good point is that, you will have some wacky combination, with the protein numbers will be over. I hear commonly hear this, that it's hard for them to hit protein numbers. How do you hit your protein numbers?

- Easily, 'cause usually I'm like, "Nikkiey, can I have more protein please?"

- I hear you, I hear you, yeah.

- This is not enough protein I need more. So I have no problem. I don't have any suggestions on that because I spread, like I said, I spread it out throughout the day, I have protein with every meal and---

- what are your protein sources that you go to?

- My go-tos are egg whites, lean ground beef, chicken, fish. Those are usually my main. Once I'm done with my pre or post workout, I'll have a protein shake and using an isolate whey for my post-workout shake. But egg whites are great because, they just fill that protein source.

- Stacked with protein and especially lean meats too as well. It's just stack with protein.

- Yep.

- Do you do a prep? How do you go about the prep? How do you do your meal prep?

- I pretty much just on usually on Sundays or sometimes half midway through the week, I'll kind of refresh everything, but usually I just make my big tub of my ground beef, my thing of chicken, I steam up my broccoli, whatever my vegetable is for that week. Whatever my meats are, everything is already in a big Tupperware in there. And my whole family eats off of that and that's why usually I'll do it twice a week. My husband knows, he doesn't come in and say, "What's for dinner? 'Cause he knows, whatever's in there. There's rice, I'll cook Jasmine rice. And we'll have that in there, with some like new potatoes. And so you've got, when I opened up the refrigerator, there's always a carb choice, there's always a protein choice, and then there's either avocado for the fats or I've got olive oil or coconut oil, whatever we have up there for the fats. And it's just, it's easy. It really is.

- Yes, number one pointer for the protein is just bulk it, Cook it and put it in a Tupperware, put it in the fridge and you know it's there. You just pull it out, lay it, put it in a Tupperware, and if you're on the run grab and go.

- And that way, there's no excuses for, "Well, I had an unexpected this, "I had an unexpected that, "I had to run out, I wasn't expecting." No, because all you have to do is throw your food into a Tupperware very quickly. Takes you two minutes and the food is there for you. I keep a to-go bag. It's always got an emergency, things in there. It's got my go-to rice cakes, got to have rice cakes. It's got packets of peanut butter or almond butter in there. I've got a couple of things with beef jerky. I've got some protein bars.

- That is an emergency go-to bag.

- Yeah, 'cause sometimes I'm out and I think I'm coming home and then something happens. And that I miss that three, I'm gonna miss that three hour window. And the thing is by now at this point being in the program, almost nine months, that means that I'm gonna have to change the macros. But because my day is already set, and now I'm so used to doing my macros. All I have to do is go in and adjust. Do I need to reduce my fats in this meal? Do I need to increase my protein? It's easy at that point, 'cause everything is already in there and I'm just recalculating and tweaking a few of the things.

- 100%, so this is a really good question. How, being that you are so advanced with the macro side of things. Now, what do you, what got you to that point?

- I did not like being hungry. And I would always screw up, I was not being prepared enough in the beginning. And after talking with you and you're like, "Get it planned ahead of time." And doing that, just that it going to be, being able to go to the refrigerator and know that it was there, I could just grab it. Poor planning was the reason that I saw, why having everything set was so important. 'Cause when I poor plan, I poor eat. I know that's not really a proper sentence, but,

- No, you said it point blank poor planning, poor eat.

- Yeah, It's really as simple as that. And if you are not eating properly, nothing else is gonna go right. You're not gonna feel like doing your workouts. And it's gonna throw you psychologically off that you already screwed up your day. So why do I need to work out? I'll start tomorrow, which is another psychological game we play. That's why we always wait until Monday to start a diet.

- Exactly, so touching based on psychological side and your mental shift has been so amazing throughout your entire journey here as a Warrior Babe. What do you think is the biggest mental shift that you've personally made here for yourself in your fitness journey?

- Oh, I've had a few. My biggest mental shift would really have to be the letting go of the number. That's that's my biggest one. That's huge for me. Letting go of that, just letting the scale go. And realizing that it's about, me getting me to where I want to be, but to be able to stay there. And that scale number was not gonna do that for me. Being able to accept that maybe I don't really know what my, true proper weight should be. Maybe I need to let my body tell me that, and work with my body instead of working against my body. And so after just getting rid of that number out of my head, maybe 135 is not my weight.

- No, girl you got to, you got muscle on you now. If you're gonna do a comp, maybe, and we'll push it down there but, I don't know if that's necessary. Yeah, it's kinda just like going where you get to your goals. Whatever point it is till you get to your goals, that's what weight you are.

- Yeah.

- 'Cause I mean, you can be like, we joke about on the calls, Pam wants to be 170 and be packed with muscle and somebody who is five-two, would be completely different numbers. Everybody's completely different, just focusing on your goals and then wherever your goal is, that's your weight.

- Yep.

- That's huge.

- Absolutely.

- So what do you, for somebody who's just starting their journey besides the planning ahead and poor planning equals poor eating. What is something, what advice would you give, if you were face to face sitting down with somebody and they were just starting their journey and they asked you, "Okay, how long have you been so successful?" What's the advice that you would give them that, when they're just starting their fitness journey?

- The first thing would be, that you really have to be honest with yourself. You have to understand some of the things that, have maybe gotten you to where you are. It's kind of a tough one because in the beginning, sometimes you don't recognize, I know with me that probably wouldn't have resonated because I wouldn't recognize that about myself yet, because I thought I knew what, I kinda thought I knew what I was doing wrong or doing right. So that's kinda tough with me, but I think just really being honest, especially as somebody starting off with you, being honest with you. I know a lot of people think that they can not be honest. Like if I hit my macros or I was And that's only robing them, because you're here to help them, you're not here to criticize them. So that's why I'll tell you, if I've screwed up, like, "I had a really bad week, I just screwed up." Because then you understand that my numbers went up, but there was a reason for it. It's not because my macro wasn't at the right spot, it's because I ate more macros than I should have. Or maybe I ate less than I was supposed to, and I didn't get my water in. And my body, I've got inflammation, I've got a lot of things going on. Just really being open and honest. I can't talk about anybody on any other fitness journey or, but with you. And just being honest with you, because we have a lot of things going on with us. I have a lot of stuff that causes inflammation in my body, I'll let you know that stuff. Because it makes sense to you or being at the age where, now I'm gonna start being post-menopausal or menopausal. Those are things that we have to understand about our body. So I guess for a newbie you just have to understand that maybe everything that you've always been told, is not the truth and it's not correct, and it's not right for you. So that if you're coming into this program, you need to learn how to trust the process. You need to understand that you're gonna be probably eating more than you're used to. You're probably gonna be doing probably less cardio than you're used to. But that each one of us is different and that you and your team are great, and you figure things out. And to get us where we need to be.

- Yeah. The honesty is definitely, I completely agree. And I appreciate everything you said, with the honesty is probably the most important thing. And that's why you and I hit it off from the start, 'cause you were open honest if you went one over on macros or something like that at the beginning, you were, "Nikkiey I did this." When we went on the way on vacation, you were open and honest. Talking on the honesty game, because a lot of people think that they can get away. Like, you're saying like, "Yeah, I hit my macros this week." And that right there, if you actually didn't and then I'm like tossing my brand I'm like, "why the fuck had the numbers moved?" why has anything shifted? That can make the whole situation even worse. If I need to shift numbers and you're actually not eating it and I cut you down lower, your metabolism can crash, if I ended up doing that. And that's why not only the honesty on that end, but also the honesty and responsibility for where you are. I just started your journey coming into it, so that you know that everything you've done, can needs to be, will probably need to be fixed. Now there's gonna be a different outlook moving forward. Like you said, you're needing more food, just the whole mental shift of responsibility and honesty when he first start off with something, 100%.

- Right.

- Great advice. Love it. So, what would you say being a warrior Babe means to you?

- This one I actually wrote down, because I knew that I wanted to say it, right.

- Yes.

- Me and my squirrel mind. But I said, "Warrior Babe is a total "and complete mindset shift. "It is a physical, mental, and emotional shift "to become the very best person that I can be. "It has challenged me daily, weekly, and monthly "to dig in deep and hard and find the strength "that I need to change my body and my mindset."

- Are you jelous?

- That's awesome, and you have legitimately lived that experience that you just shared. You have come in, created an insane shift with, not just your body, but like I said in the beginning, your mindset has totally shifted. I mean, one of the biggest things that I keep replaying in my head, because I know it's gonna help so many women is the fact when you shared that, I've done the 12, I've done decades of abuse to my body, with the different programmings that I've tried and done. And now I'm realizing that I still, I've decades moving forward to actually do it the right way.

- Right, yeah, absolutely. And I had shared on the one call too, I said, "I know that we always kinda talk about "the journey." And I said that, "I've kinda removed myself "from that world because still to that, "to me the journey somehow has an ending to it." People talk about the race, and I'm like, "Well those definitely end." And so for me, it's just becoming more, I just have tried to transition it to the lifestyle that I have moved into the proper lifestyle for me. That this is here to stay. It's not somewhere that I'm going to get to a certain point and then be like, "Okay, I'm here." It's just a constant, it's gonna be my lifestyle, eating my macros properly, exercising properly. And that's important for me.

- Even below it's like 120.

- I hope not, I don't have enough money to do that.

- Well, let's close it out with giving the Babes your favorite snack or favorite macro combo that you enjoy eating on a daily basis.

- Okay, you're going to laugh. So my favorite snack that I love, is a piece of Ezekiel bread toasted with a Biscoff cookie butter on it. My daughter got me turned onto that and like, I fit my whole day. I put that in first, before I do anything else.

- Where did you get this Biscoff cookie?

- At the grocery store in the peanut butter isle. And it's the best tasting and get the crunchy 'cause the crunchy actually has like the cookie bits in it, instead of nuts, it has a crunched up cookie. It's so good.

- I got that's only like a brand?

- And the good thing with it is, on some days I've run out of protein, but I still need carbs and fat. So that's got the carbs and fat and hardly any protein. So that works good.

- Perfect.

- My favorite.

- That sounds amazing, When I go to the grocery store, I'm buy some. What brand is it?

- I think it's actually just Biscoff. It's like the from the cook, the cookies that they give you on the airplane. Just really good cookies, yeah. Yeah, I think it's just this Biscoff.

- Nice.

- I'll send you a picture of it.

- Okay. All right, And then what's your, what would you say is your favorite muscle group to work out?

- Shoulders.

- Nice, I knew you would say that. Yes, show the shoulders off.

- Yeah they're feeling a little weak today, but that's only because of your workout.

- All right, Babe. So for those of you who want to learn more about the program, what Warrior Babe offers and how to get started, you can go to www.warriorBabe.com and become a part of thousands of women, who are getting toned and becoming stronger, more confident versions of themselves. And Lisa is one of them. Lisa, you shared so much great value, so much great insight in terms of, it's not just the body transformation, but it's also the mental transformation and you are living proof of it. So thank you for your time here. I appreciate you.

- You're welcome. I appreciate you.

- All right, bye everybody.


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